2019 Silverado - I think this is the generation that knocks Chevy down to 3rd place. 

"Pickup_man" (zekeh) 10/11/2018 at 12:55 • Filed to: None

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Got a chance to drive the new Silverado yesterday and I have a few thoughts.

First off, while it’s still an ugly truck, it actually does look better in person, and the look starts to grow on you, but again, still ugly. Driving impressions were uninsp iring, it drives like every other Silverado since 2013. I t’s smooth, the 5.3 makes good power, it drives like a truck . At least they actually bothered to center the steering wheel though, good job GM, only took 5 years. Where I think this truck falls severely short however is in the interior. Granted I drove a lower-mid trim level truck, there’s just a lot of things in the interior that I didn’t like.

We’ll start with the dash. First, it’s hardly distinguishable from the previous generation. Beyond that I just think it looks terrible and in-cohesive , there’ s angles, there’s straight lines, there’s curves, and shapes of every sort. The center stack is a vast desert of plastic, with scattered oases of buttons, none of which are similar, and none of which are very intuitive, although they would still probably become second nature eventually.

Then there’s the push to start button, which is mounted very low, on an awkwardly angled panel, right where my knee wants to be. It’s a little nitpick, but they all add up.

The overall interior design in general seems to be all about them gains bro! Everything is big and defined, and bulging, or it looks like it’s giving birth to something (see door handle area, center stack, speaker grilles, air vents).

Another admittedly very minor nitpick, is the power seat buttons, see how the front of the forward-rearward movement button is rounded? This makes it much more difficult than it needs to be to actuate the button and move the seat. It’s still doable, but the first couple times I tried to adjust the seat my finger slipped off, a square edge is just fine in a use like this.

On to the dash! The dash was pretty uneventful, it’s a very basic gauge cluster, which some people like so I won’t knock it there, but with my seating position the gauges felt like they were at weird angles, almost vertical, and angled too far in. Again,minor things, but it made the 20-60mph range a little difficult to read. Another complaint is the speedometer which only has increments of 20 mph, with small marks every 10. With your speed being displayed in the center screen this isn’t a big deal, but it does get tougher to maintain speeds of -5 mph when you have a different center screen display. (I’m also picky and like clear and distinct marks every 5mph minim um, my ‘99 F-150 actually has clear marks every 1mph and it’s the best speedometer ever ).

In another super tiny complaint the windshield wiper knob is a thin, smooth and dainty knob on the stalk  which is more difficult to turn than it needs to be. Bringing the knob all the way out to the end of the stalk, instead of just a small strip, and adding some knurling to it (like Ford has done for years) would make activating the wipers so much easier.

My biggest complaint however is on the steering wheel. See the up and down arrows, and the cruise set/resume? Those are not buttons. The left/right cruise on/off ones are, but not those. It took me forever to figure out how to work the screens/cruise. Worse yet, the cruise button on the left is a toggle, while the one on the right is a scroll, that you press in for selections. IMO this is not intuitive at all, and just poor design, especially when, again, the other trucks on the market, and even GM’s older trucks have very intuitive designs.

Overall this is still a solid truck, with a few minor annoyances, but with all of these minor annoyances and the polarizing looks I think the new Silverados (and Sierras ) fall way short design wise compared to the competition (especially interior design especially to Ram).

With this generation truck I think we’ll see a lot of Chevy buyers, with the exception to the truest of brand loyalists and bros, migrate their way over to Ram and Ford, and possibly even Nissan. Couple that with the traction Ram has gained with their last generation truck, and I think this might just be the generation that knocks Chevy (and maybe GM as a whole? (probably not) ), into third place. Time will tell.

The Dummy Gummy > Pickup_man 10/11/2018 at 13:02

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What’s crazy to me is you think they (GM) would have learned by now to fix the interiors. B ut there entire line up, across all brands, is filled with cheap plastic, disconnected parts. I was looking at a Volt and a TourX. I expected the volt to be lower quality but it’s pretty bad for the price you pay. The TourX was way worse though because you’re paying such a lofty premium. The difference between a TourX and other premium wagons is night and day. It’s still a super nice car, but the fact they are now marking them down $10k says a lot.

The mark down is still not enough for me though. It still feels overpriced for the cheap feeling inside. For me, the interior is more important than the exterior. I’m going to be looking at this thing every single day when I drive, therefore I want to enjoy it. I know I’m a bit different when it comes to that stance, but I don’t buy to impress others.

Danimalk - Drives a Slow Car Fast > Pickup_man 10/11/2018 at 13:03

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I have not driven the newest gen, but this is a p rett y nit- picky impression.

“... with scattered oases of buttons, none of which are similar, and none of which are very intuitive ”  

You lost me here. Not intuitive? I seen knobs and buttons using the same icons and labels pretty much all cars have for the last 30 years. I’m guessing you mean you weren’t familiar with how they are arranged?  

Nibby > Pickup_man 10/11/2018 at 13:04

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angled push starts are the devil!

also the ram is definitely more refined inside and out, more comfortable ride, and much better interior... this silverado’s interior still looks remarkably similar to the 2006/2007 era silverados

when i got my 2018 F150 in june I didn’t even bother to look at GMC/Chevy.... I kinda wish I went with a 2019 Ram but at the time the prices were insane

RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht > Pickup_man 10/11/2018 at 13:06

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The problem with the interior to my eye is that it’s too much like a Jeep-branded boombox from the 90s or something in that vein . That weird sort of chintzy plastic faux-ruggedness that you expect to see 15 years later in a thrift store with the satin almost-black now covered in a layer of funge and all the colored buttons stained, the fake chrome worn thin.

AestheticsInMotion > Pickup_man 10/11/2018 at 13:06

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Hmm. After driving all the 2019 pickups, the Silverado was by far my favorite. I was comparing base models though

itschrome > Pickup_man 10/11/2018 at 13:20

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All trucks are ugly..

Future next gen S2000 owner > Pickup_man 10/11/2018 at 13:22

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Speedo’s should only go to 100 and bury themselves at that point. If you are going past 100, you don’t care about your speed or your at a track. There aren’t speed limits above 85. This would expand the usable range of the speedo, 20-60, to a bigger area, more accuracy.

If you need speed above 100, just have an electronic readout.

You aren’t going 140 in this truck, so why is it there?

HammerheadFistpunch > Pickup_man 10/11/2018 at 13:23

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Its shaping up that if you want a killer interior and ride, you buy a Ram, if you want the best drivetrains you buy a Ford (frankly I think the F150 interior is just as horrible as anything out there) and you buy a chevy if you want the 6.2 and believe in old school truck principles.  

Tristan > RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht 10/11/2018 at 13:24

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This is a perfect analogy.

Tristan > itschrome 10/11/2018 at 13:26

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Counter point:

Tristan > Future next gen S2000 owner 10/11/2018 at 13:29

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This is why 85 MPH speedometers made sense. Even  now, there’s nowhere with a speed limit higher than 85, so logically there’s no reason for the speedometer to go higher. Having a 140 mph speedometer in a truck with 20 MPH demarcations is asinine when you can still get a ticket for 58 in a 55.

Tristan > HammerheadFistpunch 10/11/2018 at 13:30

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I believe in old school truck principles, so I bought a 2001 Chevy. It’s just like the new Chevies, except I don’t want to pour bleach in my eyes when I look at it.

StndIbnz, Drives a MSRT8 > Pickup_man 10/11/2018 at 13:42

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Wow, that interior is horrible.  What is it with GM and not moving on from the 90's / early 00's with interior design?  Big buttons when they don’t need to be, tacked on shit everywhere, just bad design.

Pickup_man > HammerheadFistpunch 10/11/2018 at 13:43

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I agree, I’m very di sap pointed   in the new Ford interior. I’ve always been a little biased towards Ford, but I dislike the new interior so much that I’m not sure what I would buy if I were in the market. 

Saracen > HammerheadFistpunch 10/11/2018 at 13:44

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The Ram is so hideous though.  That new face...it just doesn’t work.  Though the air suspension is friggin fantastic.

The missus and I want an F250 King Ranch PSD . It’s soooooo nice. But we can’t justify that much coin for a truck until we have more trucky things to do with it.

LongbowMkII > Pickup_man 10/11/2018 at 13:45

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that interior is rough. not really interested in it at all now. so much for a straight 6 diesel work truck :(

Pickup_man > Danimalk - Drives a Slow Car Fast 10/11/2018 at 13:47

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It is, but all the little things add up and really make it clear (to me at least) how bad it is compared to the competition.

Reaching for them they’re not where you think they should be and it requires looking for decent periods time to do whatever it is you wanted to do. This is obviously something you would get used to, but in my experience on the Fords and Rams (have n’t driven a new Titan yet) everything is right where you expect it to be.

The oasis comment was simply saying, the buttons for different functions are all spaced very far apart, where as in other trucks they’re usually in one general area and are easier to find. 

Wacko > HammerheadFistpunch 10/11/2018 at 13:47

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and if you don’t need a truck you buy a Tundra or a Titan

Pickup_man > The Dummy Gummy 10/11/2018 at 13:48

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The quality actually felt pretty good IMO, better than GM’s of past, and honestly better than the new Ford (but still worse than Ram), my issue is that this is a %100 brand new truck yet the interior is hardly distinguishable from the old truck, and already feels dated.

HammerheadFistpunch > Pickup_man 10/11/2018 at 13:49

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Spent 6   hours in one yesterday and the longer I was in there the less I liked it.

Wacko > Nibby 10/11/2018 at 13:52

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So you got an EcoBoom?

HammerheadFistpunch > Wacko 10/11/2018 at 13:52

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There is some truth to that. I always figured the Titan was the Kirkland brand Ford, and the tundra was the full size for Toyota people.

Pickup_man > AestheticsInMotion 10/11/2018 at 13:53

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I’ve driven them all and I still vastly prefer the Ram from base model all the way up to higher trim (especially the higher trim, damn). It’s a toss up for me between the Ford and the Chevy, I think the Ford has a better design, but the quality of the Chevy is better IMO.

The Silverado to me just didn’t feel new. It felt new in the way the 2014 trucks feel compared to my 212k mile ‘99 F-150, but it felt old in that it felt the same as the 2014 truck. I’m not saying it’s a bad truck, just compared to the competition it just seems like GM went big on the “bro- ness factor” and phoned the rest of it in. 

Pickup_man > Nibby 10/11/2018 at 13:56

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I’ve kinda always been a Ford loyalist, but I’m not a fan of the 2015+ interior, especially on the lower trim trucks. We have a higher trim ‘13 Ram at work which started making me question my Ford loyalty, then the ‘19's came out.... Now I’m super conflicted, do I want aluminum body and generally stout drive trains, or super nice truck to be in with questionable reliability and steel panels that will rust out on me?

Pickup_man > itschrome 10/11/2018 at 13:57

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This is a bad take. 

Pickup_man > Future next gen S2000 owner 10/11/2018 at 13:58

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Agreed, my ‘99 only goes to 100 and that’s high enough, I’ve only buried  once or twice. 

Pickup_man > Saracen 10/11/2018 at 14:00

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After spending some time around the new Ram in person I’ve really come around to it and think it’s a great looking truck. I still prefer the face lifted F-150, but only slightly.

Nibby > Wacko 10/11/2018 at 14:00

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ye 2.7L

Pickup_man > LongbowMkII 10/11/2018 at 14:01

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I know :(, the one thing GM was making that I was looking forward to. 

Pickup_man > StndIbnz, Drives a MSRT8 10/11/2018 at 14:01

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Big buttons when they don’t need to be, and small buttons when they should. 

Nibby > Pickup_man 10/11/2018 at 14:01

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i had a lower end 2015 1500 before and this one is as nice as an F150 XLT interior gets so it’s a nice upgrade having things like BLIS, heated cloth seats, navigation, etc.

AestheticsInMotion > Pickup_man 10/11/2018 at 14:06

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I should say that the Ram is actually the only one I didn’t try because the customer service was so atrocious—at TWO separate dealers no less !—that I j ust walked out.

I preferred the Silverado interior over the Ford, seemed a lot less busy and more “normal ”, whereas most manufacturers have been making their truck interiors look like megablox jungle-gyms for the past decade. H onestly I think Ford has been making poor interiors across the board for a while now. That’s based off of the ST twins (love the seats, the rest, not so much...), the trucks, the vans, and the Fusion. The Silverado also had better storage space utilization in the cab. So many useful nooks and crannies. The T undra and Frontier aren’t really in the same class, they both seemed to be two generations back compared to the Ford and Chevy, and priced higher despite that . Pretty sure they’re not even configurable with a single cab and 8' bed?

The Silverado d id feel “bigger” than the F150, which I don’t love, but I think it drove a bit smoother so... It’s a wash. If it was my personal truck and not used for work, I’d swap out springs to get the ride height even front- to- back. I realize that the springs are heavier in back to account for heavy bed loads, but I swear the rear end of the truck is a good 3 inches higher than the front. Makes it very tricky to see even average-sized c ars directly behind you.

shop-teacher > Pickup_man 10/11/2018 at 14:06

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Yeah, is ugly. Inside and out. I wish I could afford to buy an outgoing 2018 Silverado or Sierra.  I very much like the way the look.  Sticking with my ‘06 Sierra though.

Pickup_man > Nibby 10/11/2018 at 14:07

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My biggest issue with the new Fords is the piece of trim that the center vents are located in. It’s not so much the design, or material quality, but I have yet to find one of these trucks where that panel didn’t leave a huge gap where it meets the dash and generally look terrible. I’ve seen a lot with rough edges as well. The rest of the interior I like though. 

Pickup_man > shop-teacher 10/11/2018 at 14:07

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I think the outgoing generation is better, but it’s still me least favorite of the big 3. 

Nibby > Pickup_man 10/11/2018 at 14:12

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typical ford panel gap

Pickup_man > AestheticsInMotion 10/11/2018 at 14:15

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So I’m an engineer who designs aftermarket pickup accessories, as such we borrow new trucks all the time for test fits and have good relationships with the local dealerships. When we need a truck we usually call, or just show up, give them a stock number and take the truck we want so I haven’t dealt with the customer service side of things. I will say though that the people we deal with at Chevy and Ford are super easy to deal with, where Ram is just easy.

I’ll agree to disagree on the busy ness of the new Ford vs Chevy, but I do agree that Ford’s interior quality has seemed to go down since about 2015 or so. My mom had a new Focus that I thought was very nice, but I haven’t been overly impressed by the F-150 in particular. The Tundra is so hilariously outdated I don’t even bother to compare it, and while the Frontier is probably worse, at least Nissan is fully aware of it and isn’t trying to claim that it competes directly with the competition.

Pickup_man > Nibby 10/11/2018 at 14:17

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Ready for a hot take? I think t he interior in my ‘99 F-150 is pretty well put together and honestly one of the better interiors (quality wise) Ford has done. The generation after was the peak of F-150 interior design, and it’s just gone downhill from there. 

Snailkite > RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht 10/11/2018 at 14:19

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Yes!  Reminds me of the stupid exposed screw heads that did nothing i n the interior of the old H2

AestheticsInMotion > Pickup_man 10/11/2018 at 14:22

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I hope to get some time with a Ram soon. I keep hearing how amazing their suspension is this generation. 

Have you spent much time with a new Ridgeline? Any thoughts on those? 

Expired > Pickup_man 10/11/2018 at 14:30

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I disagree. I drove all 3 and much preferred the feel of the Chevy. I dont personally care that   the interior hasnt changed much. Its just there to hold guages, stereo and glovebox. If you are buying a truck to use as a truck then its chevy, dodge then ford.

shop-teacher > Pickup_man 10/11/2018 at 14:31

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I don’t care for the look of the Ram, nor to I trust FCA quality control. I like the F150, but I like the GM trucks better.

RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht > Snailkite 10/11/2018 at 15:20

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The worst trend in design is fake screw heads molded into plastic. Mostly a cancer inflicted on toys in the 90s. Mostly.

Tristan > HammerheadFistpunch 10/11/2018 at 15:36

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Except Kirkland stuff is typically fantastic quality.

HammerheadFistpunch > Tristan 10/11/2018 at 15:38

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eh/

Quadradeuce > Pickup_man 10/11/2018 at 16:15

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I’ll be sticking with my ‘11. Simple classic looks inside and out. Perfect work truck.

Of course being a work truck buyer, I care more about the drivetrain than anything else, which is why I ended up with a GM. Just can’t beat their gas v8.

And I totally agree about the steering wheel controls. Why GM did this boggles my mind. The controls are perfect on my '11.  Why change it, other than aesthetically?

None > Pickup_man 10/11/2018 at 16:40

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I think you are both full of it.  Chevy has a well bulit truck to last.  My dad has a 2003 and still going.  How about Ford and Dodge?  I don't care what people say Chevy is number 1 and always will be!

Pickup_man > AestheticsInMotion 10/11/2018 at 17:07

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Haven’t driven a Ridgeline unfortunately since we don’t make anything for them, but I wouldn’t mind trying one out, looks like a solid little trucklet. 

Pickup_man > Expired 10/11/2018 at 17:09

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Everyone likes different things, nothing wrong with that, I just happen to dislike the Chevy. I’m sure it will be a solid and long lasting truck for those who buy one, but I wouldn’t be surprised if less people buy them compared to the competition for the reasons I mentioned.

Pickup_man > shop-teacher 10/11/2018 at 17:16

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I’ve always liked the 09+ Ram, but am also scared of the quality , Chevy’s haven’t looked good to me since 2006 (gasp! ) ( but I do think the 2016 f ace lift was an improvement ), I haven’t cared much for the F-150 since 2004 (bigger gasp!), but the 2018 is gorgeous IMO, and the best looking truck Ford has made in a very long time. GMC has yet to make a bad looking truck, although the 07-13 was close.

.... but then,  we have always had different tastes (Jellybean F-150 FTMFW!!!!)

Sgt Jmack > Pickup_man 10/11/2018 at 17:22

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It is definitely different, styling wise, but in reality, what else can you do with a pick up truck? It is made up of three boxes. It is expensive to make the unit body on frame sleek, and still be heavy duty enough to carry the loads they are designed to carry.

As for the interior being or having big things, like big buttons and bins etc., you have to remember that in it’s basic form, the function is to be a utilitary truck. Many more people use these trucks as a work truck, and many of those guy wear gloves, so the knobs and switches need to be big and spaced accordingly so they can be manipulated or operated with said gloves. As for the bins, they are large enough to hold all sorts of gear or tools, and still be able to get items in and out.

Th e switches on the doors have been the same for years, because it helps cut down on cost. Same goes for those switches on the seat position controls. They are out of the normal eye sight, and function properly as designed. Plus they use them across many other  GM vehicles to again, keep cost down.

Phil > Pickup_man 10/11/2018 at 17:29

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I get a new light duty every year, I just got the new RAM, traded in a 17 Silverado lt. Silverados are solid and for a very specific conservative buyer. I am thinking the new one is the worst of both worlds conservative inside modern outside. The ram is light-years ahead of the old one (I had a 16) so far I have to say with the agressive incentives ram is going to clean up.  These are becoming dad minivans and the Dodge hits it on the head

benjrblant > RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht 10/11/2018 at 17:33

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and molded faux stitching.

benjrblant > Pickup_man 10/11/2018 at 17:34

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ooh, that sounds like a fun gig. Interior accessories? exterior? drivetrain stuff? toppers?

Pickup_man > Sgt Jmack 10/11/2018 at 17:39

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but in reality, what else can you do with a pick up truck?

A lot actually, the general pickup form will still be there, but they could have done many different things.

This was a lower trim truck yes, but the general layout won’t change in more upscale trucks, and there likely won’t be any buttons added that aren’t already there, blank switches will just become functional.

But the interior doesn’t have big buttons and would be very difficult to operate with gloves. That’s specifically my complaint with the wiper stalk and power seat controls. If I had even minor difficulty operating them without gloves, putting gloves on is only going to make it worse.

While the buttons shouldn’t be super close to each other, this just seems like they’re on their own little islands, radio controls on this little island over here, HVAC on that little island way down there, the accessory switches even further down, and the starter button way off on it’s lonesome in an awkward location.

Big storage bins are good, no complaints there, but the rest of the interior looks big and bulbous purely for styling stake, and it is not to my tastes at all. I much prefer functional and efficient, with finishing touches to make it look nice vs, “we have to make this look big and muscular, everything else can come later”.

I have no problem with the door switches , those are in good locations, operate as they have for years, and are easy to use.

The power seat switches (and wiper dial) work, but they could be much easier to use, like they are in other trucks. Just because something works, doesn’t mean it’s a good design, or that it cant be improved. 

Pickup_man > benjrblant 10/11/2018 at 17:42

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I’m mainly doing exterior stuff, running boards, grille guards, things like that.

Would love to do drivetrain and suspension things, but my current company doesn’t do any of that. 

Pickup_man > Phil 10/11/2018 at 17:45

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I’ve always liked the 09+ Ram and thought that they had one of the better interiors out there, but the new 19's are on a whole different level. Even on lower trim trucks they’re very nice places to be, and don’t feel as basic as they are, but the high trim levels.... I may have shed a little tear when I had to bring that truck back. 

Jay > Pickup_man 10/11/2018 at 18:21

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All you need to know about the writer of this article,  is that he had trouble understanding the cruise control buttons.

shop-teacher > Pickup_man 10/11/2018 at 18:37

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I hate the angry eyes Silverados with a fiery passion ... almost as much as I hate Jellybean F-150 s.

I agree that GMC has yet to make a bad looking truck, well until the 2019 Sierra anyways , but the ‘07-’13 ones were boring. I feel the same way about the ‘04-’13 F-150s, fine but blah. When the aluminum F-150 first came out, it was pretty uggo, but the refresh helped it a LOT. If I had to buy a new 2019 truck, it would be an F-150. The new Silverados and Sierras are just ... woof. I actually don’t think it will hurt their sales any, because people have horrible taste anyways.

Cjmack39 > HammerheadFistpunch 10/11/2018 at 19:31

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Exactly... ford interior is no better and if that’s all a person want in a truck is good looking interior instead of quality powertrain, why get a truck then?

MM54 > Pickup_man 10/11/2018 at 20:50

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I saw one of these on the road a couple days ago for the first time. It’s just as hideous in person.

CHHarris > Pickup_man 10/11/2018 at 20:59

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Don't know why this isn't talked about more but GM did away with tilt steering with the 19's, the adjustable column they now advertise as tilt is the main reason I will not buy one.

Canuck > Pickup_man 10/11/2018 at 21:48

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The guy admitted to owning a 99 f-150 so he is obviously biased in his opining and therefore should not be doing a review on the truck. You need so.eone who knows vehicles but is unbiased to the big 3 (chevy, ford, dodge) otherwise you get complaints out the wahzoo like this guy had. Being I’m a chevy/gm guy I don't enjoy my time in a Furd and I always have complaints everytime I have to drive one but I'm not writing articles about it for the public to read and make a decision on either.

smoky > Sgt Jmack 10/11/2018 at 22:14

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Because w earing thick leather work gloves and trying to press small buttons on the interior makes a ton of sense. 

smoky > Pickup_man 10/11/2018 at 22:20

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I agree, plus it’s a   really ugly pickup truck. I f it was somehow possible to make it any uglier than the previous gen, GM succeeded in doing that.

smoky > Pickup_man 10/11/2018 at 22:42

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I dont know what some of you guys are thinking saying the F150 interior is lacking, but I disagree. Now t he GM trucks are plain and cheap, and the Rams are so so.   I have an 18 xlt 302a sport in lead foot gray with the coyote engine/ 10r80 that’s pretty well loaded up for an xlt . I t’s a really nice truck inside and out. I get a lot of compliments, often from just random people.

Mini Guy- Now has a 4Runner > Pickup_man 10/11/2018 at 23:05

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I will always rate ford ahead of everything else. but, Ram seems to be passing ford in the looks segment, and in the quality of the interior (in the limited version only lol). but yeah, chevy will always be lower for me. Opinion but the Nissan Titan is a better truck than the Silverado

Robster > Pickup_man 10/11/2018 at 23:26

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This article being written by someone who is still excited about the speedometer in his 1999 Ford. Hmmm, can't seem to take it very serious

Truckster > Wacko 10/11/2018 at 23:29

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Ha, that’s funny... In the 14 years I have owned my Titan, racking up 250,000 plus miles as a pure work truck towing and hauling literally every day, I have had no problems. I finally bought another truck this year just because I wanted one, not out of necessity- I still use the old Titan every day.

A few years ago I was in and accident and the truck was in the body shop, so I made the insurance company rent me a full sized truck so I could still pull trailers for work and I had the misfortune of drawing a Silverado. What a total piece of junk that was compared to my Titan. Even my wife and kids couldn’t believe how slow and crappy that Chevy was, we still talk about to this day. I even liked the looks of the newer Chevy’s enough to go test drive one, but I didn’t bother starting the engine, because the interior was just as cheap, stupid, and crappy, as I remembered. All the hype surrounding the new generation of trucks is just BS. They try to justify charging 45000 for a machine that fundamentally hasn’t changed in the last 25 years. Same crappy GM falling apart plastic dash and crappy electronics, and same old boring-ass lazy 5.3 v8 that it’s always been. The brand loyalty thing is real, the Nissan is not everyone’s cup of tea, but I have had such good luck out of my old one and it has literally put food on my table for a decade and a half, so buying another one was an easy decision. It helped they extended bumper to bumper warranty to 100000 miles for Titans, and I spent about 10 grand less for it than the best deal I could find on a new eco-boost F-150.

Bentsi > Pickup_man 10/12/2018 at 01:30

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I can share my own opinion, I own few trucks, 3 F150 from mid 2000s (2 with a V8 and one with a v6), 2012 Silverado 2500 , 2006 Silverado 2500 diesel , 96 K1500, 2001 Sierra 1 500, 4 Chevy vans (2 replaced Econolines recently)

The GM trucks can take it better on the long run, all of them are used in construction sites on a daily basis, the Ford’s doesn’t age well compared to any of the GM trucks I have, the 2001 Sierra was purchased for $2000 almost a year ago and with 280k miles on the clock it runs better than any of the 3 ford that cost much more and have half of the mileage. The diesel just passed the 350k miles and is being used daily for towing 13k poinds of debris, everything inside looks good and everything a work, one of the f150, a fully equipped 2007 model, 130k miles, sunroof doesn’t work, rear window doesn’t work and the interior is all ratteling.

I don’t buy newer trucks because they will get destroyed with the type of work they go through, and in this case the GM products are much more dependable.

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rmkilc > Pickup_man 10/12/2018 at 02:17

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The off-center steering wheel is not a 5 year thing. It has been that way since Gen 1 of the Silverado back in 1999. I t was designed right in from scratch.

AnonymousJack > Pickup_man 10/12/2018 at 07:04

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And if you want your truck to last, you buy the  aging T undra and deal with some of the missing gadgets and poor gas mileage.

RT > Pickup_man 10/12/2018 at 07:55

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First place is this Hilux, second place is the bike:

StndIbnz, Drives a MSRT8 > Pickup_man 10/12/2018 at 08:56

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Are the radio controls on the back of the steering wheel still confusable as shift paddles because they are so big?

Pickup_man > Jay 10/12/2018 at 09:01

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Funnily enough I’ve never had troubles in anything else, not my fault the GM design is shit. 

Pickup_man > Canuck 10/12/2018 at 09:08

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I design and engineer accessories for pickups for a living, I’ve driven and am intimately familiar with all of the newer trucks, including those from Nissan and Toyota. I love my ‘99 because I was a kid when dad bought it, basically grew up in that truck, and have been around it/owned it for close to twenty years, so yeah, I’m a little sentimental. I’m fully aware of it’s faults and never once claimed that it was the best truck ever made, simply that I’ve had great luck with mine and I enjoy it. After having driven all of the newer trucks I have lots of likes and dislikes with all of them, and no bias either way, the new Silverado just happened to have a lot of little things that I thought could be done better. 

Pickup_man > smoky 10/12/2018 at 09:12

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I think the F-150 has a good looking interior, but I also think the Ram is better. My main complaint with the F-150 is the interior quality, I have yet to find one where the center trim piece with the HVAC vents doesn’t look and feel like super cheap plastic, and leave a horribly in consistent and large gap where it meets the dash, most of the ones I’ve seen also have pretty rough edges around that part as well. As for the rest of the truck, I love it and think it’s the best truck on the market. 

Pickup_man > Robster 10/12/2018 at 09:13

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Simply calling out bad design when I see it, and comparing it to good design where I can. 

Pickup_man > Bentsi 10/12/2018 at 09:21

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I don’t doubt that this will be a long lasting dependable truck, just that it has a lot of poorly designed parts and features.

We’ve got a couple of GM trucks at work too, and while they’re not construction vehicles, they don’t get treated lightly and they’ve held up pretty well. We have an ‘ 02 with the 6.0 gas with 452k miles and counting, it’s terrifying to drive because the suspension and steering are worn out, but it still starts up every time and runs decent. We have a ‘94 with 350k+, same story. And we have an ‘05 Duramax with 357k+ miles that still runs and drives pretty well, although the interior on that truck has not held up well at all. I will say though that GM’s electrics have never held up good in my experience, especially interior ones, burnt out bulbs, bad radios, dashes that don’t work, bad window switches, all of these on trucks that are half the age of my ‘99 F-150 which still has all of the original bulbs/switches etc. Only thing I’ve ever replaced was a window motor, and that was only last year. 

Pickup_man > rmkilc 10/12/2018 at 09:32

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Well dammit , I thought it was only on the newer trucks because of carrying over parts from the older trucks. Now I’ll never be able to unsee that. 

Pickup_man > StndIbnz, Drives a MSRT8 10/12/2018 at 09:33

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They’re the same as that last generation of GM truck (or two?) so I’m used to those by this point. 

rmkilc > Pickup_man 10/12/2018 at 11:07

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Yeah the carrying over parts line that was given by the GM spokesman was a bunch of baloney . It very well could be it was done on purpose back then for some reason but they don’t want to admit it these days because of what it’s turned in to.

For Sweden > Pickup_man 10/12/2018 at 12:53

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daang o_o

Pickup_man > For Sweden 10/12/2018 at 12:57

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This review has angered a lot of Chevy fans, for all of the wrong reasons. 

For Sweden > Pickup_man 10/12/2018 at 12:58

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they were already angry mr pickup man

Jack Does Cars > Pickup_man 10/12/2018 at 13:47

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For some reason, 2019 Silverado posts get crazy views on Oppo but as a Chevrolet dealer employee I agree on some things and disagree on others.

Highly equipped trucks, such as the LTZ and High Country, have actually pretty decent dashes and interiors. Sure, the dash might be a bit unimaginative but hey it works, I guess. Also, the 420 HP 6.2 V8 has way more power than I was expecting for a truck to have and it spoiled me over the venerable but at times anemic 5.3 V8. While the styling is controversial, it is drawing in customers. There’s been quite a few people who bought the truck, especially black High Country’s and Trail Boss’, just due to the way they look.

Overall, I think the Silverado is pretty good. I’d rather have a Sierra if I’m going for a GM truck, strictly due to the bed, but at the end of the day, if you “love” Chevrolet trucks this isn’t a bad option.

Pickup_man > Jack Does Cars 10/12/2018 at 14:19

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I haven’t spent any time in the higher end trucks so I’ll have to see what I think of those. From an overall design perspective though it probably wont change much.

Glad to hear that it’s bringing people in, and I’ll agree that the looks have surprisingly grown on me the more I see these trucks in person (except for the bed/taillights). I’m sure there’s people out there that like them, but part of me is curious how many of those people are just diehard Chevy loyalists, and how many people actually like the way it looks. Either way, if someone likes it, that great, it’s just not for me.

At the end of the day it’s still a solid truck and will probably sell well, but I still feel like there’s a lot of little things that could be done better, that the competition does better.

Jack Does Cars > Pickup_man 10/12/2018 at 14:45

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(Don’t tell my boss but I’d rather have pretty much anything else. One Raptor please.)

xyzabc > Pickup_man 10/12/2018 at 16:30

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“Design” or “Styling”?

Pickup_man > xyzabc 10/12/2018 at 16:33

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Both. 

Corndog67 > HammerheadFistpunch 10/12/2018 at 19:22

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The only problem with a Dodge, is the drivetrain is ok. At 50,000 mikes, you’ll get an intermittant short on a headlight that only you and the police notice, and they cant trace it at the Dodge dealer, at 105k, a window will stop rolling up and down, and when it rains like a sonofabitch, it will fall down into the door.

Other than that, they’re perfect. Oh, and tjr Chevy guys will keep saying, “Is that a HIMI?” And you’ll either have to bow your head and say, “.........no........”, because it’s not , or lie and say, “Of course it is.....”, because a lot of people don’t really know that it’s not .

Insa > Pickup_man 10/13/2018 at 06:22

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Omg.... a whole article about interior design choices on a full size truck. What a joooooke. Is this what automotive journalism has come to.

So what the buttons took you an extra 10 seconds to learn to use.... in the scheme of ownership that should last 200,000 miles ( at these prices i want to get 300,000k ) is the visual design of the interior that relevant....

Insa > Bentsi 10/13/2018 at 06:27

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As someone shopping for a used plow truck in new England that’s the info i want to read! Does one brand hold up better to rust then the others.

Did i mention that this article was useless

Ada1812 > Pickup_man 10/13/2018 at 08:47

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Don’t know who this guy is that reviewed this truck but he must be an idiot. Chevy trucks by far blow the competition out of the water and they have for the last 20 years it’s not even a competition in my book.

Ada1812 > Pickup_man 10/13/2018 at 08:54

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U must not know much about trucks I drove all three and in my book it’s not even a close comparison. The Chevy outperformed Ford and Dodge in every aspect.

flat tappet > Jack Does Cars 10/13/2018 at 09:26

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I was unimpressed with the interior of the ltz and high country. The Ford lariat, king ranch, and limited are much nicer, despite being years older since redo. Now get in a ram, even a B ig Horn with the leather or the rebel, and those expensive trimmed GM’s interiors are so far behind. I get FCA and GM supplier discount and I've already eliminated the GM's from options of when I get my new truck. I was impressed by the new ram. I also like the Ford. Final price will be the deciding factor for me.

flat tappet > smoky 10/13/2018 at 09:42

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Nice truck, that’s about what is buy if I buy the Ford, but having just spen t a bit of time in a new rebel and leather equipped big Horn, the interior of the ram is nicer than the Ford. To get the mpg and close to the driving dynamic of the 2018 coyote V8, you need to get the etorque hemi. The regular hemi lacks the low end grunt of the 5.0. that etorque is a 2600 option while the 5.0 on an xlt is a lot less money. Coming from dai lying a loaded Audi, I’m leaving towards the ram simply for it’s interior. I’d have to get a 502a ( or higher) lariat to get the options that are available as stand alone options on the ram. Heated steering wheel, cooled front seats, adaptive cruise are all options on lower spec Ram’s. Ram boxes are nice, but no thank you on the $1 700 air suspension please. Been there done that on the Audi and I'll never get that again. 

flat tappet > Pickup_man 10/13/2018 at 09:51

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I thought the same thing on the 19 GM’s. The cruise is less intuitive than Toyotas old stalk design. The new ram and the current Ford, are easy “ no look” , no read the manual “ just do it” operations. GM’s have always been like this with something. Oh, the horror stories of dads HVAC controls on his 96 Chevy 1500 and the 94 2500 we had, and the 93 gmc 1500 of my grandpa’s. The HVAC controls got much better on the 99+ gm full size, but then they didn’t center the steering wheel. Like I said, always something with GM’s. These new 19 GM’s, they had a clean slate, and they punted and somehow took an ugly existing dash and essentially stuffed it on the all new truck. 

flat tappet > StndIbnz, Drives a MSRT8 10/13/2018 at 09:57

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I actually like those stereo buttons on the GM’s. Because they are there is easier to discern them from the rest of the buttons on the front of the steering wheel .

flat tappet > Pickup_man 10/13/2018 at 10:04

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Exactly my predicament. Coming from a loaded Audi, I want all the nice stuff. Then again, my familiarity with FCA makes me wonder about rust and electrical issues. Once I get enough down payment saved up, the final otd price might sway me one way or the other. I get FCA supplier discount, but not Ford. Even without the discount, local ram dealers have been aggressive on pricing. Ford too as they want to keep the crown.

If you could get a 6.2 in a trail boss, I might forgive all the issues in the c ab. I get gm supplier discount too.